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My CR manuel read one way and the Yz book reads the other I google it reads several different ways ive heard it told to me both ways. Way back I used to think the high speed adjustment was for when your riding at a fast pace with big jumps and slow speed for like slower pace in an out of corners but then I read it was the exact opposite so ive been tuning like this:

1- High speed is for when you might be riding a slower pace hitting little braking bumps coming in a corner and eceleration studder bumps coming out (the shock shaft moving fast up an down repeaditly)

2- Low speed would be you might be carrying a faster pace hitting jumps (the shock shaft moving once taking a big hit taking off and landing)

Is this correct?

Also by going from 1 3/4 turns out to 2 1/4 out does this greatly effect my rebound? I went with stiffer fork springs from 45 to 46's with less oil (sweet) but now the back wont settle down in the corners even with going in on the rebound to slow it down. (2010 yz250f with 165lb) rider)
 
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Excellent site thanks Rays Dad
 
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Mxtech has some really good (how to) tune suspension but not really clear on what the difference between hi-low is
 
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According to your example, you've got a pretty good handle on it.
 
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Thats good to hear I am going in the right direction. Thanks Dan
 
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The high speed and low speed adjusters do effect the travel at high and low speed swingarm movement. The low speed is a needle valve that closes off an orifice. So it effects the action all the time. The Super trick FOX shock seperates the rebound with a check valve but most shock rebound adjuster also effects the low speed compression. The high speed adjustments can be felt on acceleration, braking and curb type bumps (high speed) and in g-out situations (low speed) so the best advise I regularly give is to mess with the adjusters all the time like we do and you will experiance the differance and learn what you like and don't like.

Or you can cheat and have DeVol Engineering set your bike up. We've done it for 30 years and this is a resource available only the experiance of time via hundreds of hours of testing.
 
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Originally posted by ted:
The low speed is a needle valve that closes off an orifice. So it effects the action all the time.


Oh man that's been the problem. Ted we have been trying to adjust your high speed, when we need to be adjusting your low speed. Big Grin I'm glad this topic was brought up.


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Such a selfless plug, Ted. Wink


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I didn't realize that all it would take to shut Ted's orifice was a needle valve... Wink
 
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The high speed adjustments can be felt on acceleration, braking and curb type bumps (high speed) and in g-out situations


So when I'm about to crash-my-guts-out-casing-a 80' double it's the HIGH SPEED thingy that'll save my hide. Cool.

Sure glad Dan (EVO) set my super mondo red machine up fer my first Toes ride (last year) cause that's exactly what I did - and walked away. No adjustments, no Testing, No Tweaks, No nut'n. It just worked.

I cleaned my shorts when I got home.

PS If I had to choose between Royce and Dan I'm not sure exactly anymore. That Devol #222 kid is doing a pretty darn good job of selling suspension work but then Crater did pretty good over on the Continent (Europe-Germany) running EVO.

Tough call, maybe a good Subway will help.
 
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[QUOTE]The high speed adjustments can be felt on acceleration, braking and curb type bumps (high speed) and in g-out situations


So when I'm about to crash-my-guts-out-casing-a 80' double it's the HIGH SPEED thingy that'll save my hide. Cool.
Sure glad Dan (EVO) set my super mondo red machine up fer my first Toes ride (last year) cause that's exactly what I did - and walked away. No adjustments, no Testing, No Tweaks, No nut'n. It just worked.

I cleaned my shorts when I got home.

PS If I had to choose between Royce and Dan I'm not sure exactly anymore. That Devol #222 kid is doing a pretty

darn good job of selling suspension work but then Crater did pretty good over on the Continent(EuropeGermany)running EVO



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No I think what teds saying is it's the LOW SPEED that saves your ass on the big 80 footers and the high speed is for the little stA stA stA studder bumps...
 
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