From I-5 you want to take the Hwy 16 Gig Harbor/ Bremerton exit continue on hwy 16 for about 29 miles till you drop into gorst you will see puget sound on your right hand side you then will want to get in the left lane and take the N. Hwy 3 exit towards Belfair. You then will come to a stop light, go through the stop light and at the next stop sign turn left onto Old Belfair Hwy. You will continue on this rd. for about 6-8 miles when you see the Bear Creek country store (it will be on your left hand side) slow down because you want to take the next right which will be bear creek dewatto rd. continue for 3 miles the road will start bending to the left half way through the turn, take a right onto gold creek rd. You will go about 2-3 miles and turn left on W. Camp Sundown rd. you will go down till you hit the dirt rd, and take a rigt. Then just follow the Green Mnt. Farms signs.
Posts: 3152 | Location: Bothell, WA | Registered: Wed November 12 2003
The place is hard as heck to find, on the gold creek rd there is no street sign, so it's hard to tell if thats the road or not. But if theres no sign, take a left. Going down the dirt road just keep following the green mtn signs and keep going down the dirt road until you finally cross a small one lane bridge and you'll be there.
Posts: 94 | Location: On the Road,USA | Registered: Mon February 13 2006
Wish we could have made it. How was everything? did they do a "best trick/whip" competition or anything like that? Would love to hear more details on the day. Charlie is doing alot better so we will try to make it up a couple times a week in the near future Alex.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 216's dad,
Posts: 288 | Location: Sultan Wa | Registered: Wed November 12 2008
It was a great day! Jeff (317) and Chris (221) were out haveing a great time as wasw myself track has perfect a little hard packed which was great corners held up awsome and bbq was delicious. Too cold? Not at all, once we started rideing it was perfect, everybody was looking good jeff was doing great for being his first time, and chris was looking solid on the 450. No contest since nobody showed up and i must say i doubt there will be another time like today for a while. Now the track is open to all the pro's out there so if you think you want to step up your rideing give me a buzz. Great ride today you guys.
Posts: 15 | Location: home | Registered: Mon March 28 2005
Originally posted by zack attack: It was a great day! Jeff (317) and Chris (221) were out haveing a great time as wasw myself track has perfect a little hard packed which was great corners held up awsome and bbq was delicious. Too cold? Not at all, once we started rideing it was perfect, everybody was looking good jeff was doing great for being his first time, and chris was looking solid on the 450. No contest since nobody showed up and i must say i doubt there will be another time like today for a while. Now the track is open to all the pro's out there so if you think you want to step up your rideing give me a buzz. Great ride today you guys.
Thanks for the update Alex. Again wish we could have made it. I will get up there in the next week or two as well to measure the gutters for the house.
Posts: 288 | Location: Sultan Wa | Registered: Wed November 12 2008
Originally posted by zack attack: It was a great day! Jeff (317) and Chris (221) were out haveing a great time as wasw myself track has perfect a little hard packed which was great corners held up awsome and bbq was delicious. Too cold? Not at all, once we started rideing it was perfect, everybody was looking good jeff was doing great for being his first time, and chris was looking solid on the 450. No contest since nobody showed up and i must say i doubt there will be another time like today for a while. Now the track is open to all the pro's out there so if you think you want to step up your rideing give me a buzz. Great ride today you guys.
we saw chris at horn rapids saturday and he was riding GREAT!!!!! onthat new bike
Posts: 1283 | Location: lake stevens | Registered: Thu October 06 2005
Thanks Alex the place was awesome, peeps, plans and Burgers too.
Jeff 40F (haha) dude it was 34F @11:00AM when I showed up (PS Jerry L's right "hard as heck to find" - read on) and 34F when I left at 3:00PM.
#221 (actually #222 Chris da "I-only-wanna-ride" Howell) and #317 ("Dang-did-I-really-make-that-sweet!") were looking pretty darn good. When Chris is on he's on and Jeff just keeps pushing. Dang I only wish I had half ... (you insert whatever you like here) of what it takes to ride a Shiffmans track.
As for a write up ... sorry peeps it took me so long but the word is out (I'm a bit scatter brained) and so I tend/try to keep it down on here these days but truth be told I enjoy it all. Hope you don't mind (big grins).
SHIFFMANS IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I'm writing this on Monday after having recorded what must be 3-5 dicta-phone descriptions of the place but here I am typing as best I can espousing thoughts and comments at random of my day at Shiffmans. I only hope what I type really translates into something useful - here goes...
Write-up: ================= Shangri-La (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangri-La), a fictional place described in the 1933 novel Lost Horizon described as a mystical, harmonious valley, gently guided from a lamasery.
Guess what we have over here on the west side - our own little bit-o-heaven-and-Shangri-La peeps.
Located just west of Belfair WA (Global coordinates N49.5 W115) is a Pro SX heaven beyond belief and so I don’t wanna hear any more complaints about weather, soil, temp or whatever. I have been there and it exists Shiffmans Shangri-La just one ferry ride ($10) away from downtown Seattle. Pac up the wife, pack up the kids, pack up the nads cause it’s pro SX in the Pacific NW at Shiffmans.
To get there tke the Seattle Bremerton ferry and head west past da WWII ships float’n in da harbor and stay on the main road paralleling the salty waters. Hook right at seas end and follow the ole Belfair road for a half dozen miles or so then If ya see a well kept stop-n-$buy (cedar planked) hook a hard right and head uphill. Up along a twisty windy road you’ll go for about 3KM. Keep going (stay on the main rout) past turns and sweeps and lakes and gates (logging gates, must-a been a half dozen) until the trends drops drop over a hill . If you get to that point you went to far. Look for skid marks on the road and STOP! You done passed W. Camp Sundown Rd. and Shangri-La. Hook a lefty or righty (depending on how far you went) and head North on Camp Sundown Rd NW.
Hang a hard (90) righty and follow the hard pack dirt-pot-holed road. Never mind them pot holes and never mind the naturally occurring Rotadendrums (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rotadendrum&aq=0s&oq=Roadaden&aqi=g-s2) growing along side the rout just keep pushing. When you get to a fork-in-the-road take it (lefty worked for me) when you get to a marker reading 11001 take that too. It’s a ways down this nasty-azz path but what’s at the end of it is absolutely amazing. It’s Shangri-freak’n-La
Don’t be like me and turn back at the last moment. I was there but didn’t know it. “Terry” a dude in a Chevy was passing me (while I on my way out) and said NO! it right there. Fait.
Fait peeps, it was fait that delivered me to Shiffmans last Sunday and it was determination that allowed me to watch the likes of Chris Howell #222 putt’n in time on frozen-hard-pack making the impossible look, well not so, possible.
LA has it’s own with its good temps, tracks, and plenty-o-peeps making rounds but we got Shiffman’s and Shangri-La and we got men real men and real women too.
Dang was yesterday a good-day-or-what!
Temps were hitting a high of 34F #22 and #317 were making rounds and the Shiffmans were sport’n some of the best most magnificent freshly backed hot off the grill burgers one could ever hope for.
Surely Shiffman’s has got to be Shangri-La. =================
Shiffmans pro-only SX track was simply awesome last Sunday (12-6-2009) and I can hardly wait for the day when he has his armature track built so people like me might actually have a chance to enjoy the sights and sounds of people doing SX (gated) and MX and all in one place and local (for me) to boot.
Good job Alex last Sunday I mean, good-good job burgers too almost made me wanna pass on my most beloved "Toasted Jalapeno, Onion and Olive Steak & Cheese topped with Chipotle sauce sandwich" (grins)
Peeps, looks like we got (should Alex decide) one very good place to call home.
Thank you Alex #113, Chris #222, and Jeff #317 for an amazing day at premier NW track (wahoo!)
Posts: 2484 | Location: North Bend, WA | Registered: Wed June 21 2006
Originally posted by Workman #21: Thanks Alex the place was awesome, peeps, plans and Burgers too.
Jeff 40F (haha) dude it was 34F @11:00AM when I showed up (PS Jerry L's right "hard as heck to find" - read on) and 34F when I left at 3:00PM.
#221 (actually #222 Chris da "I-only-wanna-ride" Howell) and #317 ("Dang-did-I-really-make-that-sweet!") were looking pretty darn good. When Chris is on he's on and Jeff just keeps pushing. Dang I only wish I had half ... (you insert whatever you like here) of what it takes to ride a Shiffmans track.
As for a write up ... sorry peeps it took me so long but the word is out (I'm a bit scatter brained) and so I tend/try to keep it down on here these days but truth be told I enjoy it all. Hope you don't mind (big grins).
SHIFFMANS IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME! I'm writing this on Monday after having recorded what must be 3-5 dicta-phone descriptions of the place but here I am typing as best I can espousing thoughts and comments at random of my day at Shiffmans. I only hope what I type really translates into something useful - here goes...
Write-up: ================= Shangri-La (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shangri-La), a fictional place described in the 1933 novel Lost Horizon described as a mystical, harmonious valley, gently guided from a lamasery.
Guess what we have over here on the west side - our own little bit-o-heaven-and-Shangri-La peeps.
Located just west of Belfair WA (Global coordinates N49.5 W115) is a Pro SX heaven beyond belief and so I don’t wanna hear any more complaints about weather, soil, temp or whatever. I have been there and it exists Shiffmans Shangri-La just one ferry ride ($10) away from downtown Seattle. Pac up the wife, pack up the kids, pack up the nads cause it’s pro SX in the Pacific NW at Shiffmans.
To get there tke the Seattle Bremerton ferry and head west past da WWII ships float’n in da harbor and stay on the main road paralleling the salty waters. Hook right at seas end and follow the ole Belfair road for a half dozen miles or so then If ya see a well kept stop-n-$buy (cedar planked) hook a hard right and head uphill. Up along a twisty windy road you’ll go for about 3KM. Keep going (stay on the main rout) past turns and sweeps and lakes and gates (logging gates, must-a been a half dozen) until the trends drops drop over a hill . If you get to that point you went to far. Look for skid marks on the road and STOP! You done passed W. Camp Sundown Rd. and Shangri-La. Hook a lefty or righty (depending on how far you went) and head North on Camp Sundown Rd NW.
Hang a hard (90) righty and follow the hard pack dirt-pot-holed road. Never mind them pot holes and never mind the naturally occurring Rotadendrums (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=rotadendrum&aq=0s&oq=Roadaden&aqi=g-s2) growing along side the rout just keep pushing. When you get to a fork-in-the-road take it (lefty worked for me) when you get to a marker reading 11001 take that too. It’s a ways down this nasty-azz path but what’s at the end of it is absolutely amazing. It’s Shangri-freak’n-La
Don’t be like me and turn back at the last moment. I was there but didn’t know it. “Terry” a dude in a Chevy was passing me (while I on my way out) and said NO! it right there. Fait.
Fait peeps, it was fait that delivered me to Shiffmans last Sunday and it was determination that allowed me to watch the likes of Chris Howell #222 putt’n in time on frozen-hard-pack making the impossible look, well not so, possible.
LA has it’s own with its good temps, tracks, and plenty-o-peeps making rounds but we got Shiffman’s and Shangri-La and we got men real men and real women too.
Dang was yesterday a good-day-or-what!
Temps were hitting a high of 34F #22 and #317 were making rounds and the Shiffmans were sport’n some of the best most magnificent freshly backed hot off the grill burgers one could ever hope for.
Surely Shiffman’s has got to be Shangri-La. =================
Shiffmans pro-only SX track was simply awesome last Sunday (12-6-2009) and I can hardly wait for the day when he has his armature track built so people like me might actually have a chance to enjoy the sights and sounds of people doing SX (gated) and MX and all in one place and local (for me) to boot.
Good job Alex last Sunday I mean, good-good job burgers too almost made me wanna pass on my most beloved "Toasted Jalapeno, Onion and Olive Steak & Cheese topped with Chipotle sauce sandwich" (grins)
Peeps, looks like we got (should Alex decide) one very good place to call home.
Thank you Alex #113, Chris #222, and Jeff #317 for an amazing day at premier NW track (wahoo!)
Great post Ken. Pretty much sums up how I feel about the track and the Schiffman family. Great facility and great family.
Posts: 288 | Location: Sultan Wa | Registered: Wed November 12 2008
Come this Friday (Dec 11th) I've gotta be back in Seattle (from-me-hood) by 8:00PM for a software release to production environment. It'll take a couple of hours and so I'm wondering how many peeps (pros etc) will be attending Lees AX practice night at Monroe so I can determine my rout. Do I head to me-hood for an hour of XBox or do I head to Monroe for the real thing?
Bottom line is...do I fight Seattle-Monroe traffic (bad) and watch AX practice for an hour or two or do I do XBox360 for the same duration?
I've got da games.
Posts: 2484 | Location: North Bend, WA | Registered: Wed June 21 2006
Originally posted by Workman #21: Come this Friday (Dec 11th) I've gotta be back in Seattle (from-me-hood) by 8:00PM for a software release to production environment. It'll take a couple of hours and so I'm wondering how many peeps (pros etc) will be attending Lees AX practice night at Monroe so I can determine my rout. Do I head to me-hood for an hour of XBox or do I head to Monroe for the real thing?
Bottom line is...do I fight Seattle-Monroe traffic (bad) and watch AX practice for an hour or two or do I do XBox360 for the same duration?
I've got da games.
Love to see you there Ken but do what you do. We will be there Thursday and Friday as Charlie needs the practice since he hasnt been on a bike since two Saturdays ago.
Posts: 288 | Location: Sultan Wa | Registered: Wed November 12 2008
Hey it's Joel King #431 here. When I was doing supercross in 05, me and greg crater went down a month early and tryed to find places to train but the tracks are limited. It's not as easy as people think to find good supercross track's to ride. We were riding anywhere from trails to motocross tracks because all the supercross track's we were planning on riding were leased out by the factory and satelite teams. I met alot of people durring the season but only a couple had supercross like track's and by then it was already mid season. All the top racers and even most the privateers that make the programs have supercross tracks to train on weeks before the first round. It is not worth your time or money unless you have a for sure training facility to practice. You cant expect to go down to supercross and compete when you havent had any supercross practice. Supercross is so much harder than it looks on tv and from the stands. By the looks from the stands it looks smooth and fun but it really is not. The whoops are unforgiving so you must be confident in big whoops. The step on off's are really hard. The tripples are about the easyist part of the track. I have a arenacross track at my house and even after riding and building multiple sections and whoops and training hard it was still hard to adapt to the way they build some of the sections. If anyone pro's want to train next summer for supercross I am going to have the track re-designed and more supercrossy. Plus ill have HUGE, HUGE Whoops to practice on. The whoops at supercross will make you or break you. So you better be ready to pin it and to ride on a whole new level that may be uncomfortable and stressfull. Good luck to all doing supercross this season and I hope all do well.
Posts: 2 | Location: Monroe | Registered: Thu July 31 2008
I also heard that Steve over at toe's is building a "spec" supercross track too. Supposed to replicate the one thats going to be built this year or the one that was last year in Seattle. Sounds like he is having some good dirt hauled in for it. Yeah it sure does look alot easier from the stands than when you get up close or on the tracks. Keep us posted Joel. Little Charlie and I just live in Sultan so that would be awesome to have a place close by to train. Costs? Donations? Let us know.
Posts: 288 | Location: Sultan Wa | Registered: Wed November 12 2008
WOW thanks for all the replys on this hot topic! The reports have been very helpful to us.BOTTOM line after going to a local race and making?? more money than doing well at a national the smart plan is to skip SX! Hope to see some NW guys do well in the opening rounds. JR
Enjoy Racing & Riding for Fun! Be a Good Sportsmen (or women)!
We will be having another SX ride day out at the supercross track Hopefully the first weekend in April. I've re-built the whoops and mixed a bunch of clay in with it so they wont break down. The track has been in perfect condition, so if you want to get a head start on seattle just give me a buzz. -Alex-
Posts: 15 | Location: home | Registered: Mon March 28 2005
hey zack i'm interested is coming out and riding the sx track, think you could shoot me an email or something??? Not sure how to get a hold of you to set things up.
Brett Osaka #627
The Asian Sensation
Posts: 684 | Location: Milton, WA | Registered: Tue November 30 2004
Brett youcan reach me at 360-286-1560, give me a ring and we can set up a day for you to get out there. Al we ask for is a 20 dollar donation and i'll need your AMA license just to copy for the release forms.
Posts: 15 | Location: home | Registered: Mon March 28 2005
