Stopped by Pacific today and learned that as of January 1st, 2009 a Leatt Brace (or some sort of neck protection) will be required to use the facility. I have one so this is fine with me but I was wondering what everyone else thinks?

Is it a good idea?
Should all tracks follow suit?
Are they going to deter to many riders?
ect, ect.

Thoughts?

I would say its good if it helps the tracks insurance costs go down. Otherwise might be kinda unfortunate for those who cant afford such equipement.

Does an evs neck doughnut count?????

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Originally posted by spin05:
Does an evs neck doughnut count?????

It better, I do not like the Leatt's.

The sign said Leatt brace (or similiar) but the guys said other stuff would work. I didn't go into specifics about if Davi Doughnuts count or not...

when i saw the sign it said neck rolls would not be allowed.that was on sat.

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Is it a good idea?
Should all tracks follow suit?
Are they going to deter to many riders?
ect, ect.

To #1 I say maybe but sure would like to see the numbers (statistics) including the incidental ones. The ones where the brace actually does harm. To #2 hope not but then I'm the guy who looks at the beanie-cap hog riders ans says why not. To #3...yup, and what's worse, it'll take away from the local establishments. Don't know about the rest of ya but I like to show my appreciation to "the locals" by buying local. Beit Subway or whatever spending local makes me feel better.

PS..Just got done watching Sahara Palin (AK gov) at Rep convention on the tube. Dudes/Peeps..she's da one Dang! Red vs Blue tides turned. What's an independent supposed to do. 51/49 vs 49/51. It's close.

Subway ("Toasted Jalapeno, Onion and Olive Steak & Cheese topped with Chipotle sauce sandwich") where are ya when I need ya. What's a desperado supposed to do.

If the entry fee went down to $20, then yes, it's a good idea, but I would also like to see more stats, and I wouldn't say EVERYBODY needs one. I've been riding for 40 years, crashed several times, even broke several helmets, but never have worn a Leatt.

Already being a Leatt man myself I don't mind the rule however, I think promoters should do this in baby steps... maybe start out with just making some sort of neck protection required and for the folks that show up and don't have them, they should have an option to rent or buy something onsite (i.e. doughnuts and not the frosted kind, although that would be cool too).

Pretty soon they will be making $300+ helmets required and $400 boots... thus making the our sport that much less available to the average consumer. how far will it go.

I am becoming a firm beleiver in first protecting myself with good equiptment, then my bike, then on with the mods and bling (so difficult though)... but i am at a different stage in life than most racers...

I commend them for sticking their necks out (no pun intended) on this issue but it seems a bit drastic and hasty... heck Leatts were barely available a year ago...

Did the owners of the Leatt Inc. fly someone to Legas for the weekend?

thats ridicilous
not everybody can afford to spend 300-500$ on a neck brace
i mean stewart doesnt even wear one
they dont force him too

Stewart and most pros hardly wear any protective gear and I think they are nuts...

I wouldn't compare what pros wear for protection and make that the standard to which we should go by. I mean, look at football. Most receivers and db's in pro football don't wear any (I mean any) pads on the lower half of their bodies. I don't think that means we should let our pee wee football players not wear knee, hip and thigh pads...

Pros hardly ever wear chest protectors which I think is crazy!

I digress. I am a firm believer that all tracks should require neck protection of some type for at least all minors. That being said, I think a neck donut is OK provided it wraps all the way around the neck (not the type that is open in the front). For adults, I don't know where they should come down. On one hand we are all old enough to make "big boy" decisions...but...we don't complain when they make us wear gloves, boots and pants!! The too expensive argument is tough for me...I always will buy a less expensive bike so I can have the best protective equipment.

For what it is worth, my family is a "Leatt Family". My son and I each had a pretty bad "lawn dart" head first crash this year and don't know if the brace saved our bacon either time, but we both walked away within seconds (and we did not break our collarbones for what it is worth). But...I do let my daughters trail ride without a Leatt...but they do use EVS neck donuts...

My Leatt brace cut up my chin pretty bad this weekend.. I hate it, but I still wear it for some oddball reason

I am going to have to go w/ the side that thinks it is a crazy/stupid (however you want to say it) idea. Not everyone is going to be able to go out and afford to buy some "form" of brace and may not want to. Being a grown adult I think that they have the right to say if you want to wear certain protective gear or not. Unfortunately if this is the rule that Pacific Raceways is going to enforce it will just mean that myself and others that I ride with will no longer be riding there. It was finally nice to have a track only 20 minutes from my house and not have to drive 2 hours to ride....but it looks like we will be back on the road making trips to other tracks who will take our business w/out having to have certain gear.

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Marnie you may be getting confused. The rules states some "FORM" of Leatt Brace.

A regular EVS Neck donut doesn't cost no more than $40 dollars. You could buy that with the money you'll save on fuel going down to Riverdale or where ever it may be.

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Originally posted by Osaka #627:
Marnie you may be getting confused. The rules states some "FORM" of Leatt Brace.

A regular EVS Neck donut doesn't cost no more than $40 dollars. You could buy that with the money you'll save on fuel going down to Riverdale or where ever it may be.

True, but it still should be my choice to wear it or not. It will just be my choice to ride there or not w/ this new "rule"

I think it should be the track's choice...it is their playground. I'm not saying I agree with their decision, but if they want to (or if they are getting pressure from their insurance carrier) they can require whatever they want. It is your choice to go there or not...

Whatever the story is here, I personally will wear or not wear what I deem is safe. On the other hand there have been 3 deaths recently related to the Leatt braces. I don't think it is a good idea for anyone at this point to get involved and require gear that is not proven. That is my $2.00 worth.

I think it is their perogative to require whatever they want. As Marnie and others have said, it is also my perogative to not go. I personally will not wear a Leatt brace. I do wear the EVS neck donut and believe it works. The EVS version of the Leatt looks better to me.

FALSE ALARM

It appears that a decision was made prematurly.

The rule will PROBABLY be that the helmet must have a DOT or snell certification, which is much more reasonable.

All the quick input and opinions is much appreciated.

Personally, I think the Leatt (or like device such as the EVS RC-Revolution, or Alpinstars) has yet to prove itself as necessary as a helmet.

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