Stimulus... Part Deux

Fri April 03 2009, 02:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Justin Anderson:
quote:
Originally posted by ted:
Indeed Vern. We now have our president firing people from privately held companies. Would this be socialism of fascism. whatever it is it is extremely frightening.

There are some very well informed people on this blog. I hope you are also telling your elected officials the same stuff.

What do you expect when a failing company is going to the government for help, they are going to be told what to do. The privately held company could just as easy tell B.O. to F-off, but they want that Gvt. money, so they will do anything it takes....

Ted, Socialism is Fasicism, its all one big Collectivist cluster.... Under which the power of the few dictate the fate of the many.

If you are using the term Fascism in a pejorative sense, than that is the end of where you may be right.

Socialism and fascism are far from equal. Socialists feel that unregulated capitalism concentrates power within a minority of the people. They simply want some type of equality when it comes to opportunity within that society.

Fascism (or fasicism as you say) is an ideology where a dictatorial power forces the individuals of that society to forego or do without any means of self interest, by forced contribution to a collective interest of the nation in which these individuals live.

Both are vastly different, and aside from using them in a pejorative sense, what you say simply does not make sense.

Fri April 03 2009, 03:33 PM

Paul 061

quote:
Originally posted by Aaron:

pejorative sense,

I'm sorry I don't even know what that word means?

Fri April 03 2009, 04:12 PM

Aaron

Get a dictionary Paul. That's what my Dad used to make me do..

Fri April 03 2009, 06:09 PM

Paul 061

–adjective 1. having a disparaging, derogatory, or belittling effect or force: the pejorative affix -ling in princeling.

Fri April 03 2009, 07:09 PM

Aaron

I was referring to its use as a noun.

Sat April 04 2009, 12:58 PM

Vern#119

i finally lernt sumthing hear!

Sat April 04 2009, 01:12 PM

Paul 061

Aaron do you by chance listen to KISW? They used the word Pejorative in one of their ads. I can't believe two people would use that word by chance.

Sat April 04 2009, 04:22 PM

Aaron

I don't listen to KISW, that's too old man for me Paul.

And Vern, if you "lernt" anything, it should be to put your headset typing thingy on any time you come on this board.

Sat April 04 2009, 05:15 PM

Vern#119

I was just being Fascishuus

I a social way.
So when I want a Capitalist I just push shift Lock?

Wed April 08 2009, 10:10 AM

Justin Anderson

quote:
Originally posted by Aaron:
quote:
Originally posted by Justin Anderson:
quote:
Originally posted by ted:
Indeed Vern. We now have our president firing people from privately held companies. Would this be socialism of fascism. whatever it is it is extremely frightening.

There are some very well informed people on this blog. I hope you are also telling your elected officials the same stuff.

What do you expect when a failing company is going to the government for help, they are going to be told what to do. The privately held company could just as easy tell B.O. to F-off, but they want that Gvt. money, so they will do anything it takes....

Ted, Socialism is Fasicism, its all one big Collectivist cluster.... Under which the power of the few dictate the fate of the many.

If you are using the term Fascism in a pejorative sense, than that is the end of where you may be right.

Socialism and fascism are far from equal. Socialists feel that unregulated capitalism concentrates power within a minority of the people. They simply want some type of equality when it comes to opportunity within that society.

Fascism (or fasicism as you say) is an ideology where a dictatorial power forces the individuals of that society to forego or do without any means of self interest, by forced contribution to a collective interest of the nation in which these individuals live.

Both are vastly different, and aside from using them in a pejorative sense, what you say simply does not make sense.

Absolutely wrong.

You would be right if it were as the socialists like to make people think socialism is- For the individual. But because socialism is an ideology that concentrates power among a collective of people, that collective actually becomes the dictatorial power you speak of, limiting individual rights in favor of the collective, or in fascism the state. So in reality, they are essentially the same thing.

Socialism is a collectivist ideaology, and so is fascism.

Capitalism is the only true individualist economic system.

Wed April 08 2009, 10:51 AM

Justin Anderson

quote:
Originally posted by Aaron:

...They simply want some type of equality when it comes to opportunity within that society...

Again, equality of opportunity is not possible in a socialistic system. Its only possible in a capitalistic system.

Mon April 13 2009, 01:26 PM

motodad642

It really only comes down to one thing..... If the government gets involved with privet businesses, trouble is soon to follow... I have been trying to find or think of any time a government (in any country) interceded monoetarily in privet business and has made a positive change.......??