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Stimulus... Part Deux
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Rick is 100% correct.
 
Posts: 1904 | Location: enumclaw | Registered: Mon August 22 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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IMHO, we simply need a a major influx of manufacturing jobs in the good old USA. I hope we see some significant tax breaks to mid-size businesses that encourage expansion and growth. What will KILL expansion of manufacturing in this country is any type of cap and trade system anytime soon. We continue to lose manufacturing jobs to China and other Asian countries. We cannot regulate ourselves to the point where we continue to lose manufacturing jobs to countries that don't care about doing what is right for the environment. Let me be clear, we need to be good stewards of the earth, but some of the proposals I have seen would essentially put several of my good clients out of business as the red tape they would have to go through from an environmental standpoint would be ludicris.

I am confident that tax incentives and tax breaks will encourage manufacturing activity in this great country. Contrary to what the media likes to say, banks are at the ready to support manufacturing with loans and needed capital...we just need a good incentive for folks to expand their existing plants and create jobs...
 
Posts: 273 | Location: Spokane | Registered: Wed February 01 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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All I know is now that I am forced onto the dating scene after never being on it and being with the same/only female for 19 years. I'm heading to the night club for my "stimulus" package. Or should I say of the package Big Grin

I know I talk a big game, I'll probably be just like Jason Biggs in the first American Pie. Wait; I KNOW It'll be just like that Exchange student scene Eek Better just dust the bike off and head to a track.
 
Posts: 445 | Location: Whidbey Island | Registered: Fri March 09 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This stimulus package will have provisions in it that requires that all the materials for the construction projects that are coming down...will be required to be 100% sourced and produced in the USA....that will be a good start.
 
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All I know is now that I am forced onto the dating scene after never being on it and being with the same/only female for 19 years. I'm heading to the night club for my "stimulus" package. Or should I say of the package Big Grin

I know I talk a big game, I'll probably be just like Jason Biggs in the first American Pie. Wait; I KNOW It'll be just like that Exchange student scene Eek Better just dust the bike off and head to a track.


Dude, you just got out of a 19 year relationship. Why are you heading out looking for another one?? You should be headed to the track.... Wink
 
Posts: 2216 | Location: Marysville | Registered: Sat March 31 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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This is ammusing...
---ECONOMIC STIMULUS PAYMENT---
This year, taxpayers will receive an Economic Stimulus Payment. This is a very exciting new program that I will explain using the Q and A format:
Q. What is an Economic Stimulus Payment?
A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.

Q. Where will the government get this money?
A. From taxpayers.

Q. So the government is giving me back my own money?
A. No, they are borrowing it from China. Your children are expected to repay the Chinese.

Q. What is the purpose of this payment?
A. The plan is that you will use the money to purchase a high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy.

Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China?
A. Shut up.

Big Grin


I say we borrow as much as we can from China.

Then when they send the collection agents after us....

Change the phone number!
 
Posts: 295 | Location: Sultan Wa | Registered: Wed November 12 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm not out of it yet and don't want to be but I also decided I needed to get the %$## out of the house before I went insane. I want to ride but I don't know if I am mentally or physically capable right now. Then again when are any of us when we decide to hurl ourselves through the air on things with an engine and two wheels.
 
Posts: 445 | Location: Whidbey Island | Registered: Fri March 09 2007Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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So here’s my take. I say we open the borders, stop all manufacturing (including construction and food) and ship it all out to the lowest bidder. No more Apples, Wheat, Fruit or nutt'n. No more Construction, as in housing, or buildings. No more Services. We out source it all to the lowest bidder. Nobody in America works ever again. Why? Because we’re Americans and we shouldn’t have to - right?

If the past is anything like the future then the bidders (who ever they be) will under bid a contract and the RFB’s (Request For Bid) will under estimate any complexity. Schedules will slip (I blame Microsoft PowerPoint and Schedule for that crap) and costs will overrun (again Microsoft PowerPoint and Schedule). The contract will culminate in all products being half built by the lowest bidder who sourced their work to (guess what) the lowest bidder resulting in the highest quality work the lowest lowest...bidder can provide.

Of course the bidder over extendeds (cause they had to) and the RFB under estimates. Low $cost, Low $Quality, driving a society ever lower. Dang who's getting rich?

Another race to the bottom successfully implemented.

Dude, someone gets a bonus. How many zero's exactly are in a $Billion?
 
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A Must See...
"The Inconvenient Debt"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgJYCpRr5yI
 
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So here’s my take. I say we open the borders, stop all manufacturing (including construction and food) and ship it all out to the lowest bidder. No more Apples, Wheat, Fruit or nutt'n. No more Construction, as in housing, or buildings. No more Services. We out source it all to the lowest bidder. Nobody in America works ever again. Why? Because we’re Americans and we shouldn’t have to - right?

If the past is anything like the future then the bidders (who ever they be) will under bid a contract and the RFB’s (Request For Bid) will under estimate any complexity. Schedules will slip (I blame Microsoft PowerPoint and Schedule for that crap) and costs will overrun (again Microsoft PowerPoint and Schedule). The contract will culminate in all products being half built by the lowest bidder who sourced their work to (guess what) the lowest bidder resulting in the highest quality work the lowest lowest...bidder can provide.

Of course the bidder over extendeds (cause they had to) and the RFB under estimates. Low $cost, Low $Quality, driving a society ever lower. Dang who's getting rich?

Another race to the bottom successfully implemented.

Dude, someone gets a bonus. How many zero's exactly are in a $Billion?


Its dis man e KEN. 1,000,000,000. I think that is rediculous.
 
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The truth about the "stimulus" package: No pork!
(From http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITI...s.worries/index.html)
• $2 billion earmark to re-start FutureGen, a near-zero emissions coal power plant in Illinois that the Department of Energy defunded last year because it said the project was inefficient.
• A $246 million tax break for Hollywood movie producers to buy motion picture film.
• $650 million for the digital television converter box coupon program.
• $88 million for the Coast Guard to design a new polar icebreaker (arctic ship).
• $448 million for constructing the Department of Homeland Security headquarters.
• $248 million for furniture at the new Homeland Security headquarters.
• $600 million to buy hybrid vehicles for federal employees.
• $400 million for the Centers for Disease Control to screen and prevent STD's.
• $1.4 billion for rural waste disposal programs.
• $125 million for the Washington sewer system.
• $150 million for Smithsonian museum facilities.
• $1 billion for the 2010 Census, which has a projected cost overrun of $3 billion.
• $75 million for "smoking cessation activities."
• $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges.
• $75 million for salaries of employees at the FBI.
• $25 million for tribal alcohol and substance abuse reduction.
• $500 million for flood reduction projects on the Mississippi River.
• $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas.
• $6 billion to turn federal buildings into "green" buildings.
• $500 million for state and local fire stations.
• $650 million for wildland fire management on forest service lands.
• $1.2 billion for "youth activities," including youth summer job programs.
• $88 million for renovating the headquarters of the Public Health Service.
• $412 million for CDC buildings and property.
• $500 million for building and repairing National Institutes of Health facilities in Bethesda, Maryland.
• $160 million for "paid volunteers" at the Corporation for National and Community Service.
• $5.5 million for "energy efficiency initiatives" at the Department of Veterans Affairs National Cemetery Administration.
• $850 million for Amtrak.
• $100 million for reducing the hazard of lead-based paint.
• $75 million to construct a "security training" facility for State Department Security officers when they can be trained at existing facilities of other agencies.
• $110 million to the Farm Service Agency to upgrade computer systems.
• $200 million in funding for the lease of alternative energy vehicles for use on military installations.

Wastefull or just what the economy needs!... you tell me?
 
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Well that is one down the drain...now this:

Ready or not, here it comes: Bailout II.

With Bailout I, which culminated in then-Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's now-infamous three-page, $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program, clearly unable to stabilize a reeling financial system, new Treasury chief Timothy Geithner has put together Bailout II.

The details await a formal announcement -- quite probably this week -- and the compromises of congressional lawmaking, but the broad scope is clear.

Bailout II will be bigger. It will:

Create a "bad bank" to own the worst of the so-called toxic assets now burning through bank balance sheets.

Guarantee hundreds of billions more in shaky assets that banks decide to keep in their vaults.

Help to prevent foreclosures and to reduce unsustainably large mortgage payments.

Require more limits on CEO pay and bonuses, more visibility into how banks use taxpayer money and more disclosure of who lobbied whom to get billions for specific banks.

The one big thing we won't know, even after the last vote is cast, is whether Bailout II will work. It will embody the best thinking available on how to fix this mess, but this crisis has so far confounded the experts.
 
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Vet,

I'm not so sure about this one - "It will embody the best thinking available on how to fix this mess".

I'm of the opinion that maybe-just-maybe the sum knowledge of the common folk (world-wide) out weighs that of the so-called-experts (again world-wide). I have my favorites (common and expert) regarding this whole financial mess but basically I go with my gut and it's the steak-&-potatoes kind.

Listen, Watch, Digest, Learn, Act.
 
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ted, you give Levi crap about droppin the F bomb a few months ago about the Pastrana movie. but it's fine if you do. interesting.
 
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All I have to say is the Monster girls stimilate my package. hahaha
 
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Please forgive me for that one. Stealing money from all of us to spend as listed above really pisses me off. It is nothing short of insanity that these government people think this will fix the economy.
Kenny is correct. These so called experts are are as smart as a bag full of hammers.
 
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Ted, try to relax man. reading what you have wrote I think that you could be do for for a coronary any day now. Take a deep breath and relax just a tad. Remeber getting super worked up and getting mad at your local politicians does not help anyones cause.
 
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Actually if everyone that disagreed with what is going on, would write letters to their politicians, we would not have to bitch like we do. But most of you won't so the politicians will keep doing their best to make us a socialist country. If you don't know what that means then by all means keep playing your video games. It's hard to relax when you see what is happening to America. Here is a little tiny example of socialism. "You can't ride your motorcycle here." Why you ask. "Because government says you can't".
 
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That one hurts Ted.
 
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WOW, Ted all I said was relax. I think its great that you and others are very involved. And try to not say that I am not involved just because I dont come on here screaming about everything that I think is wrong!
 
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